How foolish and/or arrogant do you have to be to join an chat forum where serious discussions about a controversial topic are high on the agenda, and with your first post ever start a new thread in the following high-handed way?
Andre Menache
Newly Matriculated Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1
Animal experiments = bad science
Please inform yourselves by reading about some of the animal research being conducted at Oxford: http://www.animalaid.org.uk/viv/shame.htm
Poor Andre received quite a drubbing. These are the first three responses:
i have already read that, just after it was posted on the other thread.
It highlights very few examples of tests, and doesn’t even display those as being valueless. I don’t understand how it is supposed to change my mind?
- stickyfiddle (2nd year) posts: 45Please inform yourself by getting off your ass and getting a job
Dirty doley
- abuse (Fellow of All Souls) posts: 185Yep, been there, read that. Contains details of scientific experiments which have contributed to scientific knowledge, described to make them seem as “omg extra cruel” as possible.
Not impressed.
Try again?
- debutante posts: 328
You can see Andre’s post and the subsequent discussion thread on Oxford Gossip, but be warned that it did degenerate a little after that on both sides of the debate for a while. However, reason was redeemed by a ‘fresher’ (that’s a first year student to those of you outside the UK, but on OxfordGossip denotes someone with a certain number of posts).
Andre (if that really is you) :
Can I just remind you that a year ago, you had the opportunity to speak at the Oxford Union debate on animal testing, and were given by all standards a completely fair hearing - 10 minutes to talk, uninterrupted, in front of an audience of Oxford students, many of them regular debaters and debate-goers. Even before Oxford students were radicalised by constant death-threats and arson attacks, you totally failed to convince anyone: almost everything you said was debunked comprehensively by Simon Festing as well as the other speakers, and in the end you lost the debate by a margin of 5 to 1. Several speakers, including student speakers in the floor debate, asked you to comment on the tactics of the animal rights movement, something which you entirely failed to do in your speech, and when one speaker explicitly asked you to talk about Animal Aid’s condemnation of the injunction (which stops you threatening us or photographing us), and wanted to know what was so bad about not being able to kill us, you totally brushed aside the question and refused to comment. Andre, you’ve had your chance already, and everybody was able to see how vacuous and empty you were back then. I’d suggest you don’t come back for a second helping.
If this carries on, then RDS will be redundant! Bring on the happy day when we are no longer needed.
